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WilmersGirl	re	#61	[-]
Posts: 1339 (04/29/05 09:29:44) Astral Pony Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Hmmm... Being difficult equates to me not agreeing? It's not my fault if the package got lost. I took it as her not sending. So, I in turn, didn't send mine. I think that seems pretty normal. I've never waited for someone else's trade besides this one, and that was only bc it took so long for me to get the money to pay, that I knew she didn't send (or whatever the case happened). It's okay if people see this as bad on my part and don't want to trade with me. That's not so scary. I'm an honest person, and I'm also a strong one. I'm not going to pine for forgiveness that I' don't need. I still feel like my actions are normal and fair. If she is out of a pony, I think that stinks. But again, what should I do about it? Trying to make me feel guilty by going over the same facts a million times won't help either. Choosing quotes from original emails (which may or may not be correct, by the way), and comments I make on this post, also won't help. Going around in a big circle is a terrible thing. No one is getting anywhere, that's why I was finished with this post before.
Lin	.	#62	[-]
Posts: 1567 (04/29/05 11:04:15) Astral Pony Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Wilmersgirl wrote: *Quote:* If she is out of a pony, I think that stinks. But again, what should I do about it? You could sent her half of the value of the pony that was lost, because it wasn't Rosse fault either it got lost, and you both had an agreement on trading. Maybe you could look at this from a different point of view. What would you have done when you were in Rosse's shoes and Rosse was the person who did what you did to her?
autumnberry	?	#63	[-]
Posts: 1279 (04/29/05 11:07:56) Astral Pony Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	*Quote:* Being difficult equates to me not agreeing? ...What? You ask what you should do about it - make good on your end of the deal. It's not rocket science; no, really, it's not! It's not your fault the package got lost, it's not her fault either. It's really rather simple to deal with, I don't know why you're making it so difficult and wasting your own "precious time." babyprincessnicole said it already: *Quote:* WilmersGirl, if the package didnt arrive, it does not relieve you of your duty to complete the transaction and to work with Rosse to do everything possible to try to track down the package. I knew you'd make the comment about the e-mails possibly being made up; but turnabout is fair play, and she has no proof she sent the pony, and you have no proof those e-mails are not correct. You gave her a written agreement that you would send out the package. You did not say "depending on if I think you're scamming me." The fact that she may or may not have sent it is moot in arguing your own honesty; you went back on that agreement. Therefore you are dishonest. Rosse, here's a link for you: http://www1.ifccfbi.gov/index.asp If you need help filling out the various fields I'm sure there are plenty of us here willing to help you. => DeviantArt - BeanieArt! remove the fruit to e-mail me: lilautumnBANANAberry@GRAPEyahoo.com
Lin	.	#64	[-]
Posts: 1567 (05/04/05 16:15:40) Astral Pony Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Wilmersgirl do you have to add a final word to this? Can you really not solve this with Rosse? I can imagine you don't want to send money, but maybe a pony or two to solve this? Your name has been badly hurt to my opinion because how you act into this. I don't know if you care about that, but maybe you care about ethics and morals.
tootie tails	re..	#65	[-]
Posts: 785 (05/05/05 03:38:02) Royal Pony Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Wilmersgirl - I first reckoned that mib pony was lost in the mail. But seeing how you act in this thread has made me realize you probably got her after all. You have that pony don't you. Because if you were innocent you wouldn't be so sensitive and ticked off about it. I think it's disgusting, and it adds to my impression how some oldbies on this board use their name and posting status to take advantage of other people. Whenever you look at that pony you should ask yourself if it was worth it, to lose the respect and confidence other collectors had with you.
Lin	.	#66	[-]
Posts: 1567 (05/05/05 07:41:10) Astral Pony Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	LOL Tootie Tails, I think what you say is a dangerous thing to do. I can imagine you think it, but saying it...... But if I may quote Wilmersgirl what she says about Rosse: Wilmersgirl wrote: *Quote:* Again, the whole point is that she isn't out of anything. She didn't send anything! I think that part was made up. So I guess you give her a taste of her own medicine?
tootie tails	the trade	#67	[-]
Posts: 785 (05/05/05 11:57:38) Royal Pony Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	You are right, maybe I should have thought it over a little more how to put it. But again, this is what I'm thinking, and, I do believe, what most people reading this thread are thinking. (And yes, wilmergirl said basically the same about her trading partner.) I don't think wilmergirl realizes that most people reading this thread think it's her who is acting fishy.. thus my reply. Sometimes someone has to say what all the others are just thinking.
Erin and Sarmoti	Ugh....	#68	[-]
Posts: 415 (05/06/05 08:23:06) Sunshine Pony Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Wow, I have nothing to do with this but I can't believe how wilmergirl is acting... Just the opinion of a third party person, I would never trade with/buy from wilmergirl having read her OWN responses here (not just the situation). It's just not polite or professional to blow off a trading partner. I can't believe how some people act... --Dragonflitter
Moondust28	Re: Ugh....	#69	[-]
Posts: 4 (05/06/05 20:28:31) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	I def. agree. Rosse has done nothing but been genuinely concerned, she's very obviously out a pony. It amuses me that you think that those emails may or may not be correct, considering it would have been you sending them, and you should have read them before wilmergirl! Wilmergirl, no one accused you of being a scammer until after most of your posts. Actually, people were originally commenting on your rudeness. Not sending your half? Shame on you. You should have sent it in a reasonable amount of time, that was really selfish of you! Rosse posted here showing genuine concern and all you do is accuse her of being a scammer! You take absolutely no effort at all in trying to work this out just because you didn't recieve anything. If I were in your shoes I would have emailed her right away! And about it being her fault, it is most definately not! I've had packages sent to me that have gotten lost! As for the damage, if those emails are incorrect, the fact that she described it and offered to send pics as I believe you yourself stated that she did, that should have been enough along with her good feedback. I think you are rude for not emailing her back. 30 seconds of your time would have at least put her at ease, and you had no right not to tell her that you hadn't sent your part yet. You were also so quick at calling her a scammer rather than actually aiding in solving the problems, I would never trade with you, not for the mintiest Munchy in the world. She wasn't who dragged your name in the mud, you did that yourself. ~Moondust (who apologizes if she's brash but it's been a bad night and rude people really make her irritable) "People demand freedom of speech to make up for the freedom of thought which they avoid." -Soren Aabye Kierkegaard Current Grail: Munchy and TAF Buttons
Rosse	hi	#70	[-]
Posts: 1235 (05/07/05 08:06:44) Astral Pony Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	I've been away for a week, I figured this thread would have died by now, but I'm glad it hasn't. Thank you so much everyone for helping me out and supporting me! hugs About the emails not being genuine, I still have them all in my hotmail inbox, and I can post screenshots if I need to prove anything. As for solving this; Wilmersgirl, it would be nice if you could send me a pony or two to split the loss between us, but I've pretty much given up hope on this by now... /Rosse
Lin	.	#71	[-]
Posts: 1567 (05/07/05 10:49:34) Astral Pony Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Rosse, you have been so nice in explaining this trade gone wrong, and even when WilmersGirl got all nasty to you, you stayed nice. I still think Wilmersgirl should send you a pony or two. She is around, she posted yesterday a topic on the wanted to buy board. I replied to that, and hope she reads it and will come to this topic and be a little bit more understanding to wards this and will try to solve it with you.
WilmersGirl	re	#72	[-]
Posts: 1339 (05/09/05 04:29:49) Astral Pony Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	I almost feel like the peanut gallery worsens the situation. As I said before, the opinions of traders who have never worked with me don't count. So, the only person who did trade with me who posted here is indifferent. Gee, that's a surprise.
Rosse	re	#73	[-]
Posts: 1235 (05/09/05 06:38:08) Astral Pony Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	What are you talking about Wilmersgirl?? Yes, you do have good feedback from past deals, but it's what happened in this trade that is bothering me and others! Several people have said that you have good feedback from the past, so why mess it all up now? Don't you even realize what you are doing? You have been a good trader before, but you are being a horrible one in this trade! And it's not too late to make up for it... /Rosse
WilmersGirl	re	#74	[-]
Posts: 1339 (05/09/05 17:53:30) Astral Pony Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Let's try this one out for size. Had you sent me a pony that I didn't receive, and you received my items. Again there was no insurance, how would we have solved that?
Rosssse	Re: re	#75	[-]
Posts: 84 (05/09/05 23:32:44) Playschool Baby Pony Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	We would have talked about it, tried to track down the package and then agreed to a solution such as me sending half of the ponies back. How hard could it be? /Rosse "My Little Thestral" Made by Sofia Lantz *Never Underestimate the Power of the Ponies!*
Lin	.	#76	[-]
Posts: 1567 (05/10/05 14:41:53) Astral Pony Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	Wilmersgirl, I am glad you are kind of on normal speaking terms with Rosse, and reach her a hand. I hope you can solve this problem with her.
Rosse	re	#77	[-]
Posts: 1235 (05/16/05 00:11:12) Astral Pony Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	WG? Are you absolutely sure that you don't want to solve this? /Rosse
WilmersGirl	re	#78	[-]
Posts: 1339 (05/16/05 08:06:07) Astral Pony Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	I'm not sure why it makes it more fair if I lose a pony or two to the deal. And I've yet to have a person that I've traded with say I should do that. The only people saying that are people that you know, or people who don't know me at all. Do you truly feel that we should both lose out on this? Why should you be the only one in the trade that receives a pony? I'm lost.
Trish	.	#79	[-]
Posts: 306 (05/16/05 09:46:32) Cookery Pony Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	geez, how selfish can one get
Moondust28	Re: .	#80	[-]
Posts: 4 (05/16/05 11:29:10) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts	The reason that people believe that you should send a pony is that right now, thanks to you two making a trade agreement, one is out a pony. Because mail getting lost could happen to anyone and is neither person's fault, it would be very fair for the two of you to split the loss. In my first (and only) trade, I sent my birthflower pony, and the Yum Yum I was to recieve never came. I emailed the person about it, and she offered to send me something else instead, so that I could at least have something. We agreed on her sending me a copy of MLP the Movie to make up for it. Had you sent out your end, she would have sent half of it back to you, in recompense. However, since you didn't send out your end when you should have, and instead wrote her off as a scammer, she has nothing to send back to you. The situation stinks, but just walking away from it is not a good idea. One of the major things that seperates a good trader from a regular one is that when the going gets tough they still stick around and solve any issue, which sometimes requires doing things that aren't always what is best for themselves. Just because I haven't done buisness with you yet, doesn't mean that we might not have a chance in the future. Who knows? We might want to trade sometime, but I'd be wary of a trader that has unsolved problems with others, ya know? I'm sure that you have absolutely no intention of ripping anyone off, however that alone doesn't make you a good trader. I'd need to know that if things go wrong I'm not going to be left with nothing. ~Moondust "People demand freedom of speech to make up for the freedom of thought which they avoid." -Soren Aabye Kierkegaard Current Grail: Munchy and TAF Buttons

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