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WilmersGirl, I have a few things to point out to you.

When arranging a trade, each trader has the responsibility of checking the feedback and references of the other trader. Also, the traders should agree on a set day to ship, and the method of shipping (including any extras such as insurance, confirmation, or registered mail if outside the US). If the feedback is not sufficient, then the traders may agree that one person should send first, and the other person will send once the package has arrived.

You had no right to hold onto your end of the trade. It was your responsibility to check Rosses feedback, ask for references, and if you were not satisfied with the information you received (or if, as you claim, you were suspicious that Rosse wasnt going to follow through) then you should have let Rosse know that you werent comfortable and asked Rosse to send first, or to send registered mail or another secure form of shipping (which you should also use when sending your end, to be fair). Instead of doing the right thing, you lied to Rosse, stating you would send your end out at a certain time and failing to do so. This is not the action of a good trader.

Also, Rosse has seventeen individual positive feedbacks on Fionas forum, and I know she could have provided additional references if asked. Why would she bring this unfinished transaction to the attention of all the people who view the Trader Feedback board if she did not send the package? That is not logical. If she were a scammer, and had intended to defraud you, then she would have kept quiet about a failed attempt. Bringing it here, to the attention of so many people, shows that she is concerned. Additionally, she has emailed you and posted trying to find you, while you have stayed away and not replied to her emails. Why havent you replied to her emails or posted at the Trading Post asking her where your package is, if it hasnt arrived and you are so sure that Rosse was trying to scam you? Why havent you mentioned this bad trader before, or told others about almost being scammed, if it is true? It seems like you are the one trying to pretend this trade didnt happen.

Now that Rosse has come forward on the boards, you suddenly appear and state that the fact that Rosse has no receipts or proof that the item was mailed proves that the item was never shipped, and that Rosse was lying to you. I can understand the concern about not having a receipt, but to be fair, I sometimes lose or throw out receipts before the item is received. Again, this is where a traders reputation and references come into play. Rosse has so much feedback, so many references, that a good and fair trader would at least consider that she is telling the truth instead of immediately assuming that Rosse is a scammer. Additionally, you state,

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As far as taking responsibility goes, what am I responsible for? She's the one who claim to lose the package. Why did she not use tracking and insurance then? More fishiness for me.

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This is not fair, and it certainly doesnt suggest that Rosse is suspicious. As she states,

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About insurance/delivery confirmation etc: The only way to get any kind of proof of sending/tracking number/delivery confirmation/insurance etc. here in Sweden is sending the letter/package as "Recommended". To do that on a package going out of the country costs a whopping $8.5, so I hardly ever use that service, unless I'm trading something really expensive or if the buyer wants to pay for it. It really sucks that it's so expensive, but what can you do.

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If you felt that she should have had insurance or confirmation on the package, then you should have addressed that before she sent it, when you both agreed on the shipping terms. Why should she send insured or registered if she will be out more money, and without a request from you for insurance, registered, or another additional service? To bring that up now, without having addressed it prior to shipping, is being unreasonable.

Also, even if the package was lost by the postal service, you have an obligation to complete the trade unless modifications to the original agreement are made and accepted by both parties. If I were trading with another person, who had as much feedback as Rosse, and that persons end of the trade went missing, this is what I would do: I would work with that person to try to track down the package, asking her to go to her post office and fill out the required forms, and doing the same at my end. I wouldnt ask for the return of my end of the trade if I had already sent it, and I certainly wouldnt hold onto my end of the trade just because her package didnt arrive. The only way something would change is if we agreed to split the loss, meaning that I would send a portion of the original trade, or perhaps she would send some money to help make up the difference.

And to conclude:
WilmersGirl, if the package didnt arrive, it does not relieve you of your duty to complete the transaction and to work with Rosse to do everything possible to try to track down the package. If you feel that she lied, and held onto the package, and if you felt this way before finishing arrangements for the trade, then you should have arranged the trade differently, asked to have tracking on the package, or agreed to send after receiving the package. Additionally, instead of working with Rosse to try to find the package and trusting in her as a good trader, you have insisted that she tried to scam you, avoided all her emails, and come here to her post, calling her a scammer and stating that she should have done things that were not agreed upon before the trade was arranged. You also refuse to be honorable and complete the trade as agreed, and apparently you also have not tried to locate the package, instead insisting that it was never sent.

Your actions are deplorable. I have viewed the few feedbacks available for you on Fionas forum, and I do not understand how you can receive such nice feedback, and then act so horribly toward Rosse and refuse to follow through in this trade. You have lied to Rosse, and you attempt to cover the wrongs that you have done in this trade by accusing her of attempting to scam you. Let me say that I do not know Rosse personally, nor you for that matter, but I can certainly understand Rosses frustration and sense of betrayal.

WilmersGirl, if you do not do what you can to conclude this trade, by trying to track down the package from your end and also either sending your end, or agreeing with Rosse on sending a portion of your end, then I feel that many of us here at the TP will have serious concerns about dealing with you in the future.

Nicole